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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Good day to you Pranith,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thank you for your answer, it was exactly this. However, we still have an issue with RELATIME on GlusterFS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Stating the file does not modify atime anymore, with quick-read disabled, however cat-ing the file does not replicate the atime.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">If I touch manually the file, the atime (or utimes) is replicated correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">So to sum it up:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">[node1] Touch –a file1
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">à</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> Access time is right on [node1] [node2] and [node3]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">[node1] Cat file1
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Would you have any idea what is going on behind the curtain, and if there is any way to fix that behavior?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA"> Pranith Kumar Karampuri [mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 5 février 2016 00:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Simon Turcotte-Langevin &lt;simon.turcotte-langevin@ubisoft.com&gt;; gluster-users@gluster.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> UPS_Development &lt;UPS_Development@ubisoft.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gluster-users] GlusterFS behaviour on stat syscall with relatime activated<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 02/03/2016 10:12 PM, Simon Turcotte-Langevin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi, we have multiple clusters of GlusterFS which are mostly alike. The typical setup is as such:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Cluster of 3 nodes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Replication factor of 3</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Each node has 1 brick, mounted on XFS with RELATIME and NODIRATIME</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Each node has 8 disks in RAID 0 hardware</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The main problem we are facing is that observation of the access time of a file on the volume will update the access time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The steps to reproduce the problem are:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Create a file (echo ‘some data’ &gt; /mnt/gv0/file)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Touch its mtime and atime to some past date (touch –d 19700101 /mnt/gv0/file)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Touch its mtime to the current timestamp (touch –m /mnt/gv0/file)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Stat the file until atime is updated (stat /mnt/gv0/file)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Sometimes it’s instant, sometimes it requires to execute the above command a couple of time</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:FR-CA">atime changes on open call.<br>
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Quick-read xlator opens the file and reads the content on 'lookup' which gets triggered in stat. It does that to serve reads from memory to reduce number of network round trips for small files. Could you disable that xlator and try the experiment? On my machine
 the time didn't change after I disabled that feature using:<br>
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&quot;gluster volume set &lt;volname&gt; quick-read off&quot;<br>
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Pranith<br>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">On the IRC channel, I spoke to a developer (nickname ndevos) who said that it might be a getxattr() syscall that could be called when stat() is called on a replicated volume.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">Anybody can reproduce this issue? Is it a bug, or is it working as intended? Is there any workaround?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">Simon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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