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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/13/2016 02:21 AM, Pawan Devaiah
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks for the response Pranith
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        <div>If we take EC out of the equation and say I go with RAID on
          the physical disk, do you think GlusterFS is good for the 2
          workloads that I mentioned before.</div>
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        <div>Basically it is going to be a NFS storage for VM and data
          but with different RAIDs, 10 for VM and 6 for data.</div>
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    What will be the kind of volume you will be using with these disks?<br>
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    Pranith<br>
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        <div>Thanks </div>
        <div>Dev</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:46 PM,
          Pranith Kumar Karampuri <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com"
              target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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                <div>On 01/12/2016 01:26 PM, Pawan Devaiah wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Thanks for your response Pranith and
                    Mathieu,
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                    <div>Pranith: To answer your question, I am planning
                      to use this storage for two main workloads.</div>
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                    <div>1. As a shared storage for VMs.</div>
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              </span> EC as it is today is not good for this.<span
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                    <div>2. As a NFS Storage for files.</div>
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              </span> If the above is for storing archive data. EC is
              nice here.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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                  Pranith</font></span>
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                      <div>We are a online backup company so we store
                        few hundred Terra bytes of data.</div>
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                      <div>Mathieu: I appreciate your concern, however
                        as a system admins sometimes we get paranoid and
                        try to control everything under the Sun.</div>
                      <div>I know I can only control what I can.</div>
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                      <div>Having said that, No, I have pair of servers
                        to start with so at the moment I am just
                        evaluating and preparing for proof of concept,
                        after which I am going to propose to my
                        management, if they are happy then we will
                        proceed further.</div>
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                      <div>Regards,</div>
                      <div>Dev</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at
                        7:30 PM, Mathieu Chateau <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            target="_blank">mathieu.chateau@lotp.fr</a>&gt;</span>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hello,
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                            <div>For any system, 36 disks raise disk
                              failure probability. Do you plan GlusterFS
                              with only one server?</div>
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                            <div>You should think about failure at each
                              level and be prepared for it:</div>
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                              <ul>
                                <li>Motherboard failure (full server
                                  down)</li>
                                <li>Disks failure</li>
                                <li>Network cable failure <br>
                                </li>
                                <li>File system corruption (time needed
                                  for fsck)</li>
                                <li>File/folder removed by mistake
                                  (backup)</li>
                              </ul>
                              <div>Using or not raid depend on your
                                answer on these questions and
                                performance needed. </div>
                              <div>It also depend how "good" is raid
                                controller in your server, like if it
                                has battery and 1GB of cache.</div>
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                            <div>When many disks are bought at same time
                              (1 order, serial number close to each
                              other), they may fail in near time to each
                              other (if something bad happened in
                              manufactory).</div>
                            <div>I already saw like 3 disks failing in
                              few days.</div>
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                            <div>just my 2 cents,</div>
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                              <div>Cordialement,<br>
                                Mathieu CHATEAU<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.lotp.fr"
                                  target="_blank">http://www.lotp.fr</a></div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">2016-01-12 4:36
                                  GMT+01:00 Pranith Kumar Karampuri <span
                                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:pkarampu@redhat.com"
                                      target="_blank">pkarampu@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                                        <div>On 01/12/2016 04:34 AM,
                                          Pawan Devaiah wrote:<br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi All,
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                                            <div>We have a fairly
                                              powerful server sitting at
                                              office with 128 Gig RAM
                                              and 36 X 4 TB drives. I am
                                              planning to utilize this
                                              server as a backend
                                              storage with GlusterFS on
                                              it.</div>
                                            <div>I have been doing lot
                                              of reading on Glusterfs,
                                              but I do not see any
                                              definite recommendation on
                                              having RAID on GLUSTER
                                              nodes.</div>
                                            <div>Is it recommended to
                                              have RAID on GLUSTER nodes
                                              specially for the bricks?</div>
                                            <div>If Yes, is it not
                                              contrary to the latest
                                              Erasure code implemented
                                              in Gluster or is it still
                                              not ready for production
                                              environment?</div>
                                            <div>I am happy to implement
                                              RAID but my two main
                                              concern are</div>
                                            <div>1. I want to make most
                                              of the disk space
                                              available.</div>
                                            <div>2. I am also concerned
                                              about the rebuild time
                                              after disk failure on the
                                              RAID.</div>
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                                      </span> What is the workload you
                                      have?<br>
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                                      We found in our testing that
                                      random read/write workload with
                                      Erasure coded volumes is not as
                                      good as we get with replication.
                                      There are enhancements in progress
                                      at the moment to address these
                                      things which we are yet to merge
                                      and re-test.<br>
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                                      Pranith<br>
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                                          <div>Thanks</div>
                                          <div>Dev</div>
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